Loehr-Daniels Study Course
Informal Teaching Session with Dr. John
February 9, 1985
The following is a short session with Dr.
John answering questions from members. Franklin Loehr is channeling and I am the
conductor. Eileen Burchette asks the first question. For several years she
conducted life readings, using her pseudonym “Selah.” She was the birthday twin
of Franklin and a close friend of both Franklin and me. Her friends were many,
but very few knew that she was the 20th century incarnation of a
rather well-known medium from the late 1800s. This ability to communicate with
the spiritual world was used in her lifetime as Eileen to work with the angel
realm in healing, and she was helpful to many, including me.
Helen Roberts
Carrying the Olympic Torch
Question: Dr. John, this question is from our
dear friend, Eileen Burchette.
Answer: Ah, yes!
Q. This was written last fall, and she is
speaking of the torch relay of the Olympics last summer. She and her son went to
Glendale to watch this relay and she says to you, “Do you folks have any idea of
the proud feeling this relay is generating?” And she goes into detail about it
and then says, “On the upper level of viewing it was shown to me how wonderful
and beautiful and real is the goodness which has grown from the carrying of this
light across the country. Its spirit cannot be measured. If you get a chance,
please ask Dr. John if he has any words to say on this accomplishment.”
A. Well, I would say she is completely
correct in that. And being a person herself with the insight into and contacts
with the upper levels of spirit she would see this.
This was essentially an earth act,
although of course, there was guidance and helpfulness all through. But the
beauty of it was done on earth and reached into high realms and pleased God
Himself.
It is important that America be kept
strong in all ways and on an ever-upward track because Americans are to be the
people to lead the world, to lead the peoples of the world, in the
reconstruction of human society and the new knowledge of God and of God’s way
for humanity.
I have spoken at times of how
Religious Research is an instrument, an instrument in which I and my team are
particularly interested and involved, for the use of the Master in certain ways.
And the dissemination of the teachings falls within this area.
But in another way, and in one sense
a much larger way, the nation of America has been prepared from its inception
and is now the instrument without which much of the work planned by Jesus and
the forces of good for the Millenium would not be accomplished.
(Ed – Earlier in 1985, in teaching
reading # 8072, Dr. John told us that spiritual forces and entities worked to
establish America as a new system of people coming together from all races, all
blood streams, all religions, all loves and hates, on the basis of a common
humanity finding and building community. He also said that America, as such a
nation, was to lead the world into a world community of free people where
government exists to provide a stable organization of interaction. As such, it
becomes ever more important that we, as a nation, work together as one, without
bigotry toward those of different races, creeds, religions, etc., and that there
be cooperation among people with different ideas and philosophies. This reading
appeared in our Journal shortly after 9/11 and is available now upon request.)
So this act of the carrying of the
torch by hundreds, by several thousands I believe, of runners, and viewed by
millions and thrilled to by many beyond your shores, reached high into the high
etheric realms, into the astral, the several levels of astral and then up into
the high etheric realms, and into the presence and knowledge of that rather
small inner circle around the Christ who have the great responsibility, really
the ultimate responsibility, of planning and carrying forward the program of the
Second Coming and of the Millenium.
For God is not planning this. This was
entrusted to His specially-prepared Son, the Co-Creator, that Being Who you know
best in His personalized form as Jesus the Christ, truly the One sent, the
Messiah. Yes, it is His project under God, and as you know we feel that He has
the understanding of the nature and the way of God, and great development
Himself, which qualifies Him to lead such a project of eonic redemption, and
that He is well along on the way to success.
So the carrying of the light, of the torch,
warmed Their hearts and those of all of us who serve Them. Yes.
Q. Thank you. Thank you.
A. America is so important.
Q. I know Eileen will appreciate this. I
certainly appreciate it. And she does send her love of course.
A. She is very dear to us, and tell her we
welcome her.
Transitions of the elderly during the New Age
Q. Yes. Along that line she seems to think
she is going to make her transition soon. I know that you wouldn’t know if this
is true, but I selfishly hope not.
A. It is possible. And don’t be so selfish as
to try to hold her back – which you wouldn’t. And really you couldn’t. You are
not that close to her and she does not have a strong linkage to you, you see.
Q. Yes.
A. Those with very strong linkage can very
often hold them back and so a death can be aborted, as well as a birth. And it
is less than completely desirable.
Q. I hadn’t thought of this, Dr. John. I hope
we are not doing this with my mother.
A. No. And it is good to have an outreach of
love, and saying as you said that selfishly – meaning on your part – you are
glad that she is in your plane of experience and life. And that is ncie. It
shows an appreciation of her own fine beingness, and I speak now of both your
mother and Miss Eileen. Yes.
Q. While we are speaking of the elderly –
meaning my mother because I don’t consider Eileen as elderly, here is another
question, “What do you know about what will happen to the really old who are in
nursing homes when the Master comes?”
A. Well, that’s a very good question. The
essential new thing as I see it is that they will be given knowledge upon which
to make an intelligent choice to go one. If they have fear, they will reap the
results of fear and will live for days and weeks and months and years in
limitation and pain, being a financial and emotional drag upon others. Fear and
littleness punish those who care for someone as well as that someone.
So there will be that, and there will
be those times when the authority of the Master – Who has authority because He
understands best of all of us the nature and way of God – will be used to remove
such persons even without their wish. But the great thing is that the new
knowledge of God and of life and the new knowledge of the ongoing nature of life
and the meeting of loved ones again, bringing a new knowledge of the excarnate
phase of the personality life, will bring many to say, “Yes, my choice is let us
go forward.”
Fifth Stage souls and life readings
Q. Yes. Thank you. This next question: “I
know you do not bring the people for the Life Readings, but I have noticed that
not even 1% of the readings come from people who are in the fifth stage. I can
only remember one reading – there may be more – in which the person is in their
last life on earth. Is there a particular reason you can see that there are so
few in the fifth stage?”
A. In general, they don’t need it, and more
particularly they have found their own way so much that they are not very deeply
interested.
Spirit Forces
Q. Okay, thank you. I thought it might be
something like that. Another question whether or not you have any more comments
on what you said a few years ago about “spirit forces, not necessarily entities,
but spirit forces of a lesser nature who may be assigned to work with humans and
watch over us. They are between the elemental level and the more advanced level
of persons. Not angels, not pixies, gnomes, elves or fairies. Not in the stream
of progress of angels.” We wondered if you wanted to talk about these any more?
A. Oh, I think I gave it pretty well. (both
chuckling) If you want to talk about it, why fine. You can talk about what I
said then because that says it pretty well. Later on at some time perhaps there
can be more but I think that was presented enough for the advancing edge of your
awareness and understanding as of now.
(Ed: We did not receive any more info on this
subject.)
Consciousness
Q. The next question has to do with
consciousness, Dr. John. I realize that you can have consciousness without
awareness, as plants do. And I know that you have to fashion a tool of
consciousness to have awareness on a certain plane.
A. Upon any plane, a suitable tool of
consciousness.
Q. Yes, upon any plane. So am I correct in
assuming that you can’t have awareness without consciousness or a tool of
consciousness fashioned?
A. Pretty much, yes. And yet on the other
hand there must be that awareness in order to fashion the tool of consciousness.
There must be an awareness – well, let’s use a very simple example: a human
baby. He must become aware of certain things before he can fashion a tool of
consciousness. He must become – he must have an awareness of a certain
relationship with another one or two before he can say, “Momma” and “Daddy.” So
he becomes aware of it and then he – then the whole process helps him to fashion
the tool of consciousness. It is not going up to a large slab of foam insulation
and carving out a particular tool. Now in one sense it is that, precisely. In
another sense it is more than that. The baby is fashioning his tool of
consciousness as he goes through what you would call learning. Do you see how in
a very real way the essence of learning is fashioning tools of consciousness?
Q. Yes I do, Dr. John.
A. There’s a new thought for you. You can
think over that one for six months and sooner or later –
Q. - I will come back with another question!
(Both chuckling) Well, along this same line, I remember in Augusta when you
talked to some plants and they talked back to you. Did this mean that you have
fashioned a tool of consciousness that functions in the same realm as plants?
A. Oh, yes.
Q. Okay. Do plants have an awareness that is
in another realm from earth? For example, do the nature spirits communicate with
them?
A. Yes. Plants have to learn more than humans
have to learn of plant business. They don’t have to learn human business, but
they have to learn their business. Part of their business is beyond a human,
which is rather self-evident I believe. (8058)
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